- What sparked your initial interest
in Russia? In your yearly years, how did you
view the Soviet Union?
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I started to take Russian courses in high school. At that time, everyone
thought the Soviet Union
to be our arch-enemy. From my studies, though, it did not seem that the Russian
culture is as hostile as it was publicized to be. In college, I took Russian
Literature, Russian History, Russian Culture – a whole range of courses on Russia
and Soviet Russia. All this interested me to an even greater extent. I then
became involved with a program sponsored by the State Department called The
American Council of Young Political Leaders. They sent me on an exchange trip
to Russia,
or the Soviet Union.
Then I hosted a delegation in my district in 1985 with 12 young politicians
from Russia.
Many of these people later became influential members of the Russian
Government: Valentina Matvienko,
Vladimir Aksenov, Sergei Karaganov. These
people were all my friends from way back. I developed a relationship with them.
When I came to Congress and was assigned to the Arms Services Committee, I
became, perhaps, Russia’s
toughest critic, but, at the same time, best friend. I’ve maintained a
consistency throughout my eighteen years in Congress of working with Russia
in a very straightforward manner. While I have seen administrations, both
Republican and Democratic, that had foreign policies with Russia
like roller-coasters, I think that I have a unique perspective on Russia,
a different one than others may have.
- Recent proliferation of terror in Russia has really underscored the global
terrorist threat. In fact, terrorism is among the major issues that face Russia and the US alike. How do Russia and America currently collaborate in the war on
terror? What are some concrete highlights?
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I took the first US
delegation into Beslan. In fact, Russia
would not even allow our ambassador in Moscow
to go. But, as I have very many friends in Russia,
separate from our State Department, I was able to travel. In spite of the
efforts to discourage me from going to Beslan, I
thought it was extremely important to express solidarity with the Russian
people and to show that we have a common enemy. I also thought it was important
because the coverage of the incident by international media was hypocritical:
journalists were trying to blame Putin and the
military for the debacle. I wanted to go down and see for myself. As typically
is the case, the media had grossly distorted it. Their view would have
undermined the relationship between our two countries. I went to the North Ossetian Office in Moscow,
ironically even before our own ambassador went there. I signed the condolence
book and met with the Vice-President of North Ossetia.
I talked to him about the ways we could help, what kind of relief efforts we
were able to provide. Later, we went down to the site. In Beslan,
I was hosted by the speaker of the local parliament, whose two children were in
the school when it was attacked. We had first-hand information of what
happened. I laid flowers at the school and presented a flag that we’ve flown
over the US Capitol building. I made a declaration that the terrorists who did
that outrageous act were nothing but cowards. When we met with the President of
North Ossetia, I presented him with a framed copy of
a proclamation that we passed in Congress, condemning the terrorist attack.
Overall,
on the issue of terrorism, Russia
and the United
States try to join
efforts. The Russian Duma leads the anti-terrorism
task-force, whose job is to establish international collaborative efforts. I
think that now we
need to be even more aggressive in that area. I’ve proposed to Kotenkov, Lebedev, and the
President of North Ossetia that we have a conference
on anti-terrorism strategies and security in Moscow.
That would give us an opportunity to bring hundreds of American companies that
have technology that Russia
may be interested in. Also, our security companies will be able to see what Russia
has developed. We are working on organizing this conference right now. Then,
eventually, we will have a similar conference, where our Russian friends would
come to the US.
There are tangible things that we could do because, indeed, Russia
and America
now have a common enemy.
- The Jackson-Vanick
concern is quite prevalent in the discussion of developing US-Russia economic
relations. What, in your judgment, should be done about it? What is your
perspective on US-Russia economic relations as a whole?
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I have a four-point strategy, of which I had already briefed the
administration. Russia
should be taken out of Jackson-Vanick immediately.
The same US
government officials who now criticize Russia
did nothing to elevate it from Jackson-Vanick when
they had power. I do not accept their criticism because they did not take the
appropriate action for bringing Russia
closer to us when they could have. Jackson-Vanickhas
has been a dinosaur for already ten years. I was able to get almost every major
Russian organization in America
to write me letters over a year ago urging the government to take action on
Jackson-Vanick. Nothing has happened. The first thing
we need to do to insure that Russia
will remain our partner is to take steps we should have taken ten years ago and
elevate Russia
out of Jackson-Vanick. The second step is to increase
the efficiency of economic work with Russia.
In some cases, when we put money into Russia,
we wasted that money. We blamed Russia
for the waste, when, in fact, the waste was largely cost by the US’s
miscalculations. The US
should be putting the process in place. My initiative would solve this problem
by dealing with the people of the inner circle that have a far better access
than our State Department, than our Energy Department, than our Defense
Department would ever have. My third point details joint missile defense. I’ve
been the biggest proponent of collaborative missile defense for the last 15
years. The Clinton
administration canceled the only joint missile defense program in 1996. Since
then, I got the program reinstated, but the Bush administration just canceled
it again the second time. How can our President make speeches with Putin and have our defense department cancel the only defense
program we have? The Russians look at it and say: “You don’t really mean what
you’re saying. These are just empty words.” The same empty words that were said
when politicians here would talk about being Russia’s
partner, all the while knowing that the oligarchs were stealing millions of
dollars of money that should have been going to the Russian people. There were
US advisors during Yeltsin’s tenure working with Yeltsin and the oligarchs.
Americans knew there was corruption. Instead of taking action on behalf of the
Russian people we just went along. The Russians simply lost their trust in the US.
My fourth point, the most exciting one, is that the US
administration should announce a US-Russia Free Energy Trade Agreement. This
would be an agreement between the highest levels of the Russian and US
governments that would create a task force that includes top energy officials,
both governmental and private, who would create a joint energy plan. This will
assist Russia
in using the latest technology to extract its energy, in financing the
construction of energy pipelines, and in facilitating the exchange of energy
workers with new expedited visas. The long-term strategy would be to have Russia’s
vast energy supplies become the primary [foreign] energy resource for the US.
Such an arrangement will be beneficial to Russia
and America
alike. The US
will be able to say to the countries of the Middle East
that it has other reliable energy partners.
The
US-Russia Free Energy Trade Agreement becomes a cornerstone for building a new
relationship between our two countries. Having Russia
as a partner would allow us to deal with the nuclear situation in Iran,
where we desperately need Russia’s
collaboration. It would also allow us to work with Russia
in dealing with the situation in North
Korea. Russia
has tons of energy in Sakhalin.
That could become a solution for the energy needs of the North Koreans. It
could be possible to convince North
Korea to get rid
of its nuclear materials. The four points would give Putin
strong evidence to show to the Russian people that now America
has really become a partner.
- Congressman Weldon, you are quite
famous for your proposal “A New Time, A New Beginning” …
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I wrote that document in 2001 for the major think-tanks of America
in an effort to convince the two Presidents before any of their summits that
this truly was a new direction we could be moving in. The Russian side took my
proposal very seriously. In fact, the Russian
Academy
of Sciences published that document and sent it to every member of the Duma and the Federation Council. The chairman of the Academy
of Sciences,
chairman Osipov, invited me to Moscow
in December of 2002 to defend my document, which was endorsed by 1/3 of the
Congress. When I went to Moscow,
I spoke in front of 400 academicians, including such individuals as the
communist-party leader Zyuganov, who have not been
friends of America
in the past. When I finished, the resolution to make my document the official
document for US-Russia relations was passed unanimously. That same day, I was
inducted into the Russian
Academy
of Social Sciences, making me the only American ever inducted into that
Academy.
But
in contrast to the Russian side, the American side took no action on my
proposal. Condoleezza Rice put the document on a shelf in her office, where it
has been for the past three years. To me, this says that, while today the
relationship between US and Russia
is strong between Bush and Putin, but there’s nothing
below it. Certainly, there is some cooperation - sister cities programs, youth
programs, chambers of commerce - but it is fragmented.
- Given your involvement with the
House Science Committee (Subcommittee of Space and Energy), in what scientific
fields is Russia currently the world’s leader? In
what fields, is the US the strongest? Are there possible
avenues for mutual projects?
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Russia
is the world’s leader in many areas. For example, Russia
is very strong in physics. I am very close to Evgeniy
Velikhov, who is the leader of the Kurchatov Institute and the honor given to me was to
present the 100th anniversary speech at the Kurchatov
Institute. The other two speakers were the prime minister of Japan
and Evgeni Primakov. Kurchatov is typical of Russia’s
institutes. There’s outstanding leadership. The institute, under Velikhov, has changed its orientation to looking for
peaceful uses of nuclear energy. I also think that the work of Aleksei Yablokov, my good friend,
who is on the opposite side of the spectrum, who does not like nuclear power at
all, contributed significantly to the understanding of environmental security
concerns in Russia,
as well as in the rest of the world. I value the work of Russian institutes in
health care and medicine. In fact, I’ve linked together our cancer research
institutes in the US
with their Russian counterparts. Certainly, Russia’s
space and missile technology is very much advanced. I hosted the only major
conference between Russian and US scientists in Philadelphia,
where we had over 200 of Russia’s
top institutes. There, all sorts of scientific fields were presented. Russia
and the US
have great potential in all these areas.
- After Putin
announced his plan-ned changes in Russia’s electoral system, the West
responded with criticism. What would be your view on these changes?
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This gets to the heart of a major frustration I have. There are many in this
country who are pushing for America
to distance itself from Russia
because of some of the changes that President Putin
recently announced. There’s recently been a letter of disapproval signed by 14
leaders throughout the world. To me, that’s exactly the wrong direction. Where
are similar letters to the leadership of, for instance, Saudi
Arabia or China
that are far more oppressive than Russia
ever was? That sort of thing is hypocritical. My view is that we need to be
friends and partners with Russia
in solving major problems and dealing with economic challenges. My observation
is that we have not been clear and consistent with Russia
for the past twelve years. Many of the people that signed the disapproval
letter were the same policy-makers during the Clinton
era that caused Russia
to distrust us. Although I do have the same concerns about Putin’s
long-term goals as everyone, I believe that the way to get President Putin to listen to us and to work with us is not to slap him in
the face.
- Overall, what is the prospective
direction of US-Russia cooperation ?
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For me, the outlook on the relationship is positive. For me, it is a goal that,
in ten years, the US
and Russia be full partners, improving the quality of life for the
people in both countries. If we can just get past some of the cold-warriors
that exist in both political parties, I think we can be successful.